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Kristian Persson--"有效的需求管理"讲座

时间:2005年1月12日(周三)下午14:30-16:30

内容
软件开发正迅速地变得越来越复杂,对公司而言,一种降低复杂度的方法就是有效地管理需求,并且了解需求如何与设计及模型工件关联起来。
* 信息可追踪性
* 需求与建模
* 需求驱动的开发

演讲人

Kristian Persson,Telelogic需求管理专家。

幻灯下载
*Effective Requirements Management--an overview

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声音记录(和文字记录是互补的,不是重复)
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文字记录

(14:30:22)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:能tinj1ian ma
(14:30:29)Claster与所有人说:可以
(14:30:33)free_wind与所有人说:ok
(14:30:38)kruce与所有人说:ok
(14:30:40)*GeraldLee与所有人说:OK
(14:30:43)fans与*umlchina_seminar说:没问题了
(14:30:54)Claster与所有人说:现在没有了?
(14:31:15)*skyedge_zh与所有人说:没声音
(14:31:18)mqh89与所有人说:怎么回事
(14:31:21)kruce与所有人说:时断时续
(14:31:27)foxjackshao与foxjackshao说:时断时续
(14:31:28)*GeraldLee与所有人说:翻译的声音听不到
(14:31:30)wunglee_75与所有人说:时断时续
(14:31:34)Claster与所有人说:换人的时候丢失声音
(14:31:46)wunglee_75与所有人说:换人的时候丢失声音
(14:31:48)hanshaowei与*umlchina_seminar说:换人的时候丢失声音
(14:32:07)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:能不能把问题打出来
(14:32:46)*nancy_yan与所有人说:又断了????
(14:32:46)mqh89与所有人说:换人的时候丢失声音
(14:32:49)wunglee_75与*umlchina_seminar说:又没有声音了
(14:32:52)*internetzs与*umlchina_seminar说:我没话筒
(14:32:53)fans与*umlchina_seminar说:没声音了!!
(14:32:56)*ting__ting与*wangier说:就是换人的时候有问题
(14:32:57)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:听不见了
(14:33:00)*skyedge_zh与所有人说:效果太差。。
(14:33:17)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:能不能辅助把问题打出来
(14:33:54)*skyedge_zh与所有人说:why not use UC chatroom...it's better..
(14:34:31)mqh89与所有人说:翻译的声音听不到
(14:34:34)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:oh , my god!
(14:35:01)mqh89与*umlchina_seminar说:把问题打出来吧
(14:35:21)kruce与所有人说:翻译的声音怎么经常听不到,老是断
(14:35:31)wunglee_75与*umlchina_seminar说:my god!老是断
(14:35:43)fans抓抓头皮露出迷惑的神情:关键的中文翻译我们总听不到丫
(14:36:03)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:如何辨别需求的轻重缓急
(14:36:07)kruce与*umlchina_seminar说:时断时续
(14:36:12)kruce与*umlchina_seminar说:解决一下
(14:36:31)*aero_boy与*umlchina_seminar说:又听不见了
(14:36:40)mqh89与*umlchina_seminar说:总是关键的时候就听不到了。
(14:36:42)*GeraldLee与所有人说:是不是MIC的问题啊?
(14:37:00)liguoyun_772与所有人说:试试
(14:37:22)wunglee_75与所有人说:应该是MIC的问题,老外的声音可以
(14:37:35)mqh89与*umlchina_seminar说:把解决的方案打印出来吧
(14:38:07)*fl95149与所有人说:就让老外说吧,先不要翻译了
(14:38:11)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Slide2
(14:38:11)*internetzs与所有人说:dont' 把phone give me.
(14:38:16)*kingarthor与所有人说:管理员给翻译换个麦克风
(14:40:06)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Slide 3
(14:42:13)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 4
(14:43:09)fans与[*KristianPersson]说:What's Front-End?
(14:43:57)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:前端
(14:44:21)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这是说,需求管理覆盖软件开发全过程
(14:44:58)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:而不是只是软件或系统开发的前期
(14:45:31)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Crosby是质量大师
(14:46:16)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:如何分类需求
(14:47:25)wunglee_75与所有人说:先在好像不是提问的时候,大家是否在后面的提问时间再提问,以免打断KristianPersson的讲义
(14:48:21)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 5
(14:48:41)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:为什么项目能获得成功
(14:49:24)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:大约有一半的成功因素与需求管理有关
(14:50:23)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 6
(14:50:42)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求管理带来的益处
(14:51:22)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:增强涉众的满意度
(14:52:23)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 7
(14:52:31)hanshaowei与[*KristianPersson]说:能不能举个实例
(14:53:12)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:我们一会会有很多事例
(14:53:21)hanshaowei与[*KristianPersson]说:OK
(14:53:28)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:质量和需求管理的定义
(14:54:20)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Crosby, quality guru, define the quality to 对需求的满意度
(14:54:29)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 8
(14:55:02)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求管理不仅用于软件,还用于各种系统
(14:57:08)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:系统总还是另一个系统的一部分
(14:57:11)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Slide 9
(14:58:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这就是一个事例
(14:58:49)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 10
(15:00:19)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 11
(15:02:02)*shotgun_p与*umlchina_seminar说:不好意思,迟到了。能不能告诉我去哪里下载讲义
(15:02:06)*song_wei与所有人说::(
(15:02:26)fans与[*KristianPersson]说:no Sound
(15:02:34)hanshaowei与[*KristianPersson]说:既然,在整个系统的生命周期中,都要有需求管理,那么,需求管理在系统的各个阶段都要做的工作是什么?
(15:02:39)*internetzs与所有人说:广义:http://webseminar5.unix105.cn4e.com/webseminar/EffectiveRM.ppt
(15:03:06)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/download.htm
(15:03:55)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求管理在各个阶段的任务,我们在随后的胶片中会看到
(15:04:46)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说::(
(15:04:50)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:该张胶片说明,需求具有各种特别属性
(15:04:54)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 12
(15:07:04)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:从涉众需求到系统需求,这样也从问题域到解决方案域
(15:08:16)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 13
(15:08:54)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:问题域与解决方案域需求的不同
(15:10:00)wunglee_75与所有人说:断断续续的翻译
(15:10:27)wunglee_75与所有人说:惨!
(15:12:02)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:关于翻译,大家如果没有听清,可以随后再来问问题
(15:12:07)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 14
(15:14:39)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 15
(15:15:05)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这是开发过程中一个典型的V模型
(15:16:52)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:随着开发的深入,需求也不断细化、具体化
(15:18:52)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 17
(15:20:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:可追踪性,从低层的需求到高层,从测试规范到相应级别的需求
(15:21:41)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 18
(15:22:44)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:建立好可追踪关系,就可以从正向和反向进行分析,还有覆盖率分析
(15:24:31)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:附带说一下,有了可追踪关系,就使得整个项目,或整个公司的各个文档之间有了联系
(15:25:36)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 19
(15:26:40)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:进行影响分析就能判断变更的可行性
(15:27:50)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 20
(15:28:33)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:通过覆盖率分析,可以判断对需求的实现程度,和测试程度
(15:29:20)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 21
(15:30:22)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这里说明一个需求的生命周期,包括各种状态
(15:33:07)smartdata与所有人说:怎么没有声音?
(15:34:05)*wptzjy与所有人说:我也听不到声音?
(15:34:24)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:不会吧,声音应该还可以
(15:35:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 22
(15:36:28)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:大家好
(15:37:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这是可追踪视图,显示各种可追踪关系,并进行分析
(15:37:36)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 23
(15:38:53)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:UML 用于系统建模,系统建模对系统开发有诸多益处
(15:41:03)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 24
(15:41:52)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求描述和系统建模相辅相成
(15:42:35)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 25
(15:43:25)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:建模的时候,如果仍然可以保持可追踪关系,将为开发带来许多益处
(15:44:01)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS/Analyst能够在描述需求的时候,采用UML 2.0进行建模
(15:44:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 26
(15:44:54)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:作为一个总结,这里谈到需求驱动开发
(15:46:25)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:slide 27
(15:46:40)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这是最后一页总结
(15:47:07)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求驱动开发,需求驱动测试
(15:48:13)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:这次对需求管理做一个简要说明,欢迎大家提问。
(15:48:20)wunglee_75与所有人说:介绍一种比较有效的需求双向追溯的工具
(15:48:40)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:能否介绍一种比较有效的需求双向追溯的工具
(15:48:55)hanshaowei与所有人说:刚才提到了需求的模拟又没有相关的工具系统可以使用
(15:49:30)*wangier与所有人说:那个DOORS 是一个需求管理工具吗?
(15:49:38)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Please introduce the requirement management tool
(15:50:06)*internetzs与所有人说:应该是telelogic公司的需求工具
(15:50:39)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:没有声音了,请重复
(15:50:59)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS, Dynamic Object Oriented Requirement system
(15:51:00)wunglee_75与*umlchina_seminar说:没有声音了,请重复可以么?
(15:51:10)*kingarthor与所有人说:how to manage requirement changes include develop,use tools?what tools?
(15:52:10)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS, build and formalize the user requirement
(15:52:37)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:可以使用DOORS来管理整个开发过程中的需求
(15:52:49)*kingarthor与所有人说:how to resolve the changes manage and work efficiency
(15:52:49)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Welcome more questions
(15:52:51)*wangier与所有人说:how to map the req't to model in other tools?
(15:53:45)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS和许多建模工具都有集成,比如Telelogic TAU, IBM, Borland toosl
(15:54:43)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:more questions?
(15:54:59)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:大家还有什么问题吗?
(15:55:20)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:我们可以做问题的中英文翻译
(15:55:38)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:大家可以用中文提问
(15:55:51)*kingarthor与所有人说:please introduce the doors and retinal rose relation
(15:56:07)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:doors可以进行双向追溯么
(15:56:22)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS for requirements managment, ROSE, UML 1.x tool
(15:56:35)*kingarthor与所有人说:doors是定位
(15:56:46)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:我是说从需求到设计到编码之间的追溯
(15:57:12)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:Doors 需要数据库支持吗?
(15:57:19)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:What's the DOORS's position
(15:57:37)*kingarthor与所有人说:是如何和其他case工具结合,是什么关系?
(15:57:52)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:How to position DOORS
(15:58:08)*kingarthor与所有人说:它的定位是什么?
(15:58:14)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Does DOORS need the database support?
(15:58:39)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS是企业级的需求管理工具
(15:59:04)*internetzs与所有人说:http://www.telelogic.com/products/doorsers/doors/这里有介绍
(15:59:19)smartdata与所有人说:可以跟踪所有的需求的变更过程吗?
(15:59:36)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS有数据库支持
(16:00:06)*kingarthor与所有人说:它所蕴涵的理念是如何和其他过程管理配合?
(16:00:08)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Could DOORS trace all changes of the requirements
(16:00:15)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:和CaliberRM有什么区别?
(16:00:33)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:How DOORS cooperate with other process management tools?
(16:00:38)wunglee_75与所有人说:doors和CaliberRM有什么区别?
(16:00:56)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:可以通过Doors产生不同需求的报表吗?
(16:01:33)*kingarthor与所有人说:doors有自己的需求定义的结构化语言吗?
(16:01:47)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Could DOORS generate all kinds of reports?
(16:01:53)smartdata与所有人说:是否可以将需求映射为UML模型?
(16:02:01)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Has DOOS his own language?
(16:02:25)wunglee_75与所有人说:doors 和 CaliberRM 有什么区别?
(16:02:36)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:How to deal with that case where user requirement is conflict with current system design?
(16:02:37)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS可以和各种过程管理工具,比如配置和变更管理,项目管理工具集成。
(16:03:05)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:What are the differences between DOORS and CaliberRM???
(16:03:17)foxjackshao与*umlchina_seminar说:How to deal with that case where user requirement is conflict with current system design?
(16:03:31)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS可以生成各种需求报表,并能定制。
(16:03:47)foxjackshao与所有人说:How to deal with that case where user requirement is conflict with current system design?
(16:04:34)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:DOORS可以支持中文,日文、韩文
(16:04:42)hanshaowei与*umlchina_seminar说:这里不是在做广告吧
(16:05:09)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:需求和设计的冲突应当尽量避免,
(16:05:17)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:从哪儿可以获得Doors试用版软件和用户手册?
(16:05:27)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:否则,至少需要改变一方才能进行下去。
(16:05:47)hanshaowei与*umlchina_seminar说:能不能谈谈需求管理的方法论需求怎么能平滑的过渡到设计?
(16:06:40)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Where to get the user's manual and evaluation copy of DOORS???
(16:06:43)wunglee_75与hanshaowei说:你的问题好像太大了吧?
(16:07:01)hanshaowei与wunglee_75说:这个才是根本
(16:07:42)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:thanks
(16:07:46)*wangier与[*KristianPersson]说:i noticed that there's a technical req't after user's req'ts, would u please detail it again?
(16:08:36)foxjackshao与所有人说:How to keep the precise understanding of user requirement?
(16:08:39)foxjackshao与所有人说:Maybe sometime I mistake user requirement
(16:08:44)*kingarthor与所有人说:doors是对rose文件管理还是对内容管理,它和版本控制的关系?
(16:09:31)*wangier与[*KristianPersson]说:thanks
(16:09:34)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:Doors在需求管理思想和Rational RequisitePro有什么相识性和不同?
(16:10:22)*umlchina_seminar与所有人说:please contact with http://www.telelogic.com.cn or 打电话 85185130
(16:12:06)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:what is the difference between DOORS and requestPro
(16:12:34)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:双向追溯工具除了doors还有什么其它的?
(16:12:43)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:What's the relationship between DOORS and version control?
(16:13:26)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说::双向追溯工具除了doors还有什么其它的? 包括开源的?
(16:14:37)pinxue与*umlchina_seminar说:Not agree to requesitePro is not ready to big project.
(16:14:39)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:Thanks
(16:16:06)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:Is there any open source tool for requirement management?
(16:16:07)wunglee_75与[*KristianPersson]说:双向追溯工具除了doors还有什么其它的?包括开源的
(16:16:46)foxjackshao与所有人说:what staff is need in integration test , system test, acceptance test respectively?
(16:18:25)pinxue与wunglee_75说:If you are working on a open soruce project, I suggest you try Jira.
(16:18:26)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:在New Project 引入Doors作需求管理,需要有那些准备工作,怎样避免引入风险?
(16:18:36)wunglee_75与所有人说:翻译的又断了,有什么开源的工具么?
(16:19:13)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:How to introduct DOORS in a new project, how to avoid risk?
(16:20:24)wunglee_75与pinxue说:谢谢!
(16:20:40)*umlchina_seminar与[*KristianPersson]说:欢迎大家提问
(16:20:59)foxjackshao与所有人说:which phase dose Acceptance testing work?
(16:21:03)*kevinliu2002与[*KristianPersson]说:Thanks
(16:21:17)*kingarthor与所有人说:谢谢umlchina
(16:21:45)*kingarthor与所有人说:thanks kristianpersson
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(16:22:17)pinxue与[*KristianPersson]说:Would you please suggest a checking list for evaluating importance of a requirement?
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(16:25:00)*wangier与[*KristianPersson]说:thanks a lot.
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